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I think you and I pretty much agree but are using different words, and I don't know enough to keep up with you and the others. 

And I would erase the F## and replace it with a G to make it easier for me to read. It's just a different way of naming a note to me. I learned it as G, not F##. If I were further down the road musically that could change, maybe. I would do the same if it was called an Abb, if that's possible. 

[erhe]

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Surprises are a bxxxxx, aren't they?

[sciurius]

I am not transposing keys, [...] The transposition interval is derived as the difference between the base pitches of a "from key" and "to key",

That is what I would call transposing based on keys.

but it can be set perfectly fine without any keys at all

If you mean by specifying intervals as `(-5 -9)` I would rather use 'keys`

Summarizing:

• Transposition is defined by two reference pitches, the source pitch and a destination pitch.
  
• The chord name (including a bass part) the transposed same way as the source pitch transposes to the destination pitch.
  
• Double flats and sharps are replaced by their enharmonic equivalents.
  

For practical purposes, the current key of the piece can be used as source pitch reference, and the desired key of the piece can be used as destination pitch.

[e.k.]

This discussion is as old as "sheet music on PC"....

e.g.: 
https://music.stackexchange.com/question...for-guitar

- Personally I prefer slash chords with the bass name of the scale of the chord,
   because it´s most used/common/intuitiv.
- If I use transposed txt based songs just for my own, I let it be, because I know the background behind "A/Db"
   (theory doesn´t matter).
- If "wrong spelled" transposed songs are passed on, I copy the song into a texteditor, change the names and copy back, takes a minute
   (theory does matter and avoid being embarrased).

Generally I prefer Nashville Notation (roman numerals), this way you never have to transpose on paper.
But you have to know the notes/intervals on the fretboard/keys.

@erhe, could this be a possibility for you? It seems you are a very versed musician.

By the way, a further example for theory enthusiasts/discussion: C(dim7)=Cm6(b5)


e.k.
(James Taylor tempered guitarist)


PS.: @mike, sciurius:
Would it be possible to integrate Nashville Notation into txt/chordpro editors
(transpose chordnames to/from Nashville Notation)?

[Zubersoft]

It would appear erhe is very much done trying to discuss this further based on his editing of all of his posts. erhe - if you do read this, I'm integrating the changes you requested using your algorithm. So it will be corrected with the next update. Thanks for taking the time to post even if it was a frustrating experience for you.

Mike

[Zubersoft]

e.k. - I think the ChordPro application already supports Nashville Notation. That is something I want to support in MobileSheets as well.

Mike

[sciurius]

By the way, a further example for theory enthusiasts/discussion: C(dim7)=Cm6(b5)

I assume you mean Cm7(b5).

[itsme]

Probably not.
the "half-diminished" chord Cm7(b5) contains c eb gb bb

the diminished chord C(dim7)=Cm6(b5) contains c eb gb a (erhe would say c eb gb bbb)
I admit I never came across a case where somebody called a diminished chord m6(b5), but imho it's not wrong.
Or maybe, even more nitpicking, C(dim7) contains c eb gb bbb wheras Cm6(b5) contains c eb gb a

[e.k.]

Probably not.
the "half-diminished" chord Cm7(b5) contains c eb gb bb

the diminished chord C(dim7)=Cm6(b5) contains c eb gb a (erhe would say c eb gb bbb)
I admit I never came across a case where somebody called a diminished chord m6(b5), but imho it's not wrong.
Or maybe, even more nitpicking, C(dim7) contains c eb gb bbb wheras Cm6(b5) contains c eb gb a

I just played around a little with enharmonics, not only letters Abb=G, also numbers bb7=6 (dim7 contains bb7).
and I just want to lighten the mood of the thread, not lead out of topic.

Let´s make music, not theory!
e.k.

[sciurius]

Let´s make music, not theory!

Yes!

[Swiss1000]

Probably not.
the "half-diminished" chord Cm7(b5) contains c eb gb bb

the diminished chord C(dim7)=Cm6(b5) contains c eb gb a (erhe would say c eb gb bbb)
I admit I never came across a case where somebody called a diminished chord m6(b5), but imho it's not wrong.
Or maybe, even more nitpicking, C(dim7) contains c eb gb bbb wheras Cm6(b5) contains c eb gb a

Instead of translating chords in Mobile Sheet, I would really prefer to have a bridge with I-Real Pro. I don't understand why we waste so much time with a feature that isn't absolutely necessary, and a bit atypical for an application designed to comfortably display sheet music. I would prefer a link to import chord charts from I-Real Pro. It's much more comprehensive, it's designed for that purpose, and it does it better.

Chord Pro is a great option for "songwriter" or "song singer", playing alone and singing (on the rain)

I never use it because for groups it is not professional.
Grids are more usefull, powerfull and easy to display and undertant.
Grids can mix chords, repetitions structures, tabs etc...

MS works perfectly for sheets of music, display great anny grids, but should offer Grid Support if MS want to seduce music bands, lot of amateur music bands use grids.

[BRX]

Well, I shared your opinion for a long time. But Johan put so many improvements into chordpro (including grids and ABC support) that it's definitely for all now and not only  "songwriter" or "song singer" any more.

I've used and still use iRealPro occasionaly since I collected a lot of chords in it when I didn't consider chordpro usable.

But you definitely should look into ABC, which MS already supports (though I consider it in beta pase).

It's wild what you can display and edit with it "live" including grids but also melodies, chords, lyrics, complete piano and band scores. (What it isn't is a rhythm accompaniment like iRealPro, but I don't think that is what you are after).

[Swiss1000]

Well, I shared your opinion for a long time. But Johan put so many improvements into chordpro (including grids and ABC support) that it's definitely for all now and not only  "songwriter" or "song singer" any more.

I've used and still use iRealPro occasionaly since I collected a lot of chords in it when I didn't consider chordpro usable.

But you definitely should look into ABC, which MS already supports (though I consider it in beta pase).

It's wild what you can display and edit with it "live" including grids but also melodies, chords, lyrics, complete piano and band scores. (What it isn't is a rhythm accompaniment like iRealPro, but I don't think that is what you are after).

Unfortunatly is is absolutly not a pro tool for jazz or advanced bands...
I-Real is an "amateur" developpment, but structure and chords are more ralistics to create an arrangement.

And Chord Pro do not solve the main problem : you needs 2 to 4 sheets for a band : UT, Bb, Drum, Lyrics, etc...

[BRX]

You are correct, it's not. It's not a tool but a music language that is really simple to learn (at least for the basics) and which is criminally unknown and unused by jazz and band musicians (or any other musicians than the Irish folk community really) and could and should very well be used for "pro purposes", especially with MS supporting it now, but also the available web applications (and some other apps, too).

You have to invest the time to get to know it (but that's the same for pro tools).

Unfortunatly is is absolutly not a pro tool for jazz or advanced bands...
I-Real is an "amateur" developpment, but structure and chords are more ralistics to create an arrangement.

And Chord Pro do not solve the main problem : you needs 2 to 4 sheets for a band : UT, Bb, Drum, Lyrics, etc...