A flat symbol isn't part of the default font set on Android devices so you're outta luck for a "real one". A lower case b is about as good as it gets, really. You could just arbitrarily select another character and call that a flat symbol but that might be confusing.
Colours might be an option to consider. Chords in red and notes in blue or something. It's still not what you want though.
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I fully understand the request. Jeffn1 wants to do things like that:
and he's talking about using proper Unicode sharps & flats.
I created examples using copy/paste from the Win10 character map and must say: it's not a big deal with sharps, but lower case b instead of a proper flat symbol looks really ugly, even more when lower case letters are used to write single notes, which is pretty common, I also do it like that every now and then
@Frank Cox: sorry, I have to contradict, MobileSheets renders it nicely, both on Win10
and on Android
So I can propose a workaround: copy/paste the proper characters from the Windows character map, from my attached file sharps_flats.pro, from a UTF8 .txt file that you prepare for yourself or from somewhere else and MobileSheets will render it just fine.
Lower case characters in brackets [a] [bb] [c#] should be transposed correctly like chords [A] [Bb] [C#]
And the ChordPro reference implementation can be configured to render chords like e.g. [Bb] [C#] with proper Unicode sharps and flats.
Attached sharps_flats_pro.pdf is the PDF output of sharps_flats.pro
@Skip: thanks for the link, it shows great alternatives to my copy/paste proposal above
@ jlgtx: "h" instead of a "b" is a topic of its own. You might want to search the forum for keywords "transcode" or "Scandinavian"
(12-02-2023, 08:27 AM)itsme Wrote: I fully understand the request. Jeffn1 wants to do things like that:
and he's talking about using proper Unicode sharps & flats.
I created examples using copy/paste from the Win10 character map and must say: it's not a big deal with sharps, but lower case b instead of a proper flat symbol looks really ugly, even more when lower case letters are used to write single notes, which is pretty common, I also do it like that every now and then
@Frank Cox: sorry, I have to contradict, MobileSheets renders it nicely, both on Win10
and on Android
So I can propose a workaround: copy/paste the proper characters from the Windows character map, from my attached file sharps_flats.pro, from a UTF8 .txt file that you prepare for yourself or from somewhere else and MobileSheets will render it just fine.
Thanks! I may need to figure out a few things (like where files go when I download something into my tablet, hah!), but I will work on it.
(12-02-2023, 08:44 AM)itsme Wrote: @ jlgtx: "h" instead of a "b" is a topic of its own. You might want to search the forum for keywords "transcode" or "Scandinavian"
Yeah, I thought about that after the fact, and looked it up. I didn't realize that the "h" is swapped for the B but the Bb is still used. Makes my brain itch.
@ jeffn1: in your first post you mentioned "Hacker's Keyboard", I also use this on my Android devices.
I managed to add the sharp and flat symbol to the "Suggested Punctuation" bar of Hacker's Keyboard: I copied sharps_flats.pro to my tablet, renamed it to sharps_flats.txt and opened it in a texteditor. When I start editing, Hacker's Keyboard shows up. I copied the flat symbol to the clipboard, opened Hacker's Keyboard - Settings - Suggested Punctuation and pasted the flat symbol to the list. Same with the sharp - voila, you can insert the symbols from here.
What I did not understand by now: this "Suggested Punctuation" bar is not always shown. It pops up in certain situations while editing a text file. Do you know which action triggers the "Suggested Punctuation" to show up?
Just in case (it was missing in sharps_flats.pro)
natural: Unicode Character 'MUSIC NATURAL SIGN' (U+266E) 0x266e
I noticed that the natural sign is missing in several fonts that contain both flat and sharp - pretty strange
I posted in another thread about this, but when I tried to replace # and b with the unicode equivalents, the spacing between characters got really messed up. With the Android default font (Roboto) it created a gap between the chords and the sharp/flat characters that was unacceptable. Based on the screenshots above, it sure looks to me like the chord pro specification is using an entirely different font in each case - not just substituting the ascii characters with the unicode equivalents. For users that want the accidentals rendered in a nicer way, I need to add support for more fonts (including custom fonts).
12-03-2023, 07:48 AM (This post was last modified: 12-03-2023, 07:49 AM by jeffn1.)
(12-02-2023, 10:03 AM)itsme Wrote: @ jeffn1: in your first post you mentioned "Hacker's Keyboard", I also use this on my Android devices.
I managed to add the sharp and flat symbol to the "Suggested Punctuation" bar of Hacker's Keyboard: I copied sharps_flats.pro to my tablet, renamed it to sharps_flats.txt and opened it in a texteditor. When I start editing, Hacker's Keyboard shows up. I copied the flat symbol to the clipboard, opened Hacker's Keyboard - Settings - Suggested Punctuation and pasted the flat symbol to the list. Same with the sharp - voila, you can insert the symbols from here.
What I did not understand by now: this "Suggested Punctuation" bar is not always shown. It pops up in certain situations while editing a text file. Do you know which action triggers the "Suggested Punctuation" to show up?
Just in case (it was missing in sharps_flats.pro)
natural: Unicode Character 'MUSIC NATURAL SIGN' (U+266E) 0x266e
I noticed that the natural sign is missing in several fonts that contain both flat and sharp - pretty strange
Thanks, Mike and everyone with all the great responses.
Yes, I suppose this is something that people would use a lot. (Yep, if there were a convenient way within MS to add a flat symbol (sharp is less necessary) to a letter that would be very useful.
