[Ben]

Hi Mike,
I'm planning to establish this process:
In my "master" Windows Mobilesheets environment, I'd like to map specific songs with specific performances (the Kemper-profiler's sound presets basically).
Opening a song in MS is then expected to "automatically" select a performance and its first slot in that 5-slot performance bank.
Not from Windows though, but from an Android tablet or iOS phone. I never touch the settings on those satellite devices, all that is done in the Windows version only.
The bluetooth dongle "CME Widi Master" (yet to be purchased) would go into the Midi IN & OUT ports of the Kemper. 
Can I define the Midi-Settings (mapping a song with a "sound" of the Kemper) in MS Windows, and the restoration of the Windows backup file in Android and iOS will include all necessary settings so that both devices (either or) can send the commands to the Kemper? I assume the tablet and the phone just require a separate initial "introduction" to the dongle. As would have to be done between Windows and the dongle, of course.

The other way around, selecting a performance directly in the Kemper triggering the loading of a song in MS, would also be possible I take it.

Thank you!  a

[Zubersoft]

Yes, you can restore a backup and it will contain all the MIDI commands you set up on your Windows device. You just need to go to Settings->MIDI Settings->Configure MIDI Connections on the tablet and phone to establish the connection to the Kemper. You can have bidirectional communication and either load a performance on the Kemper or have the Kemper load a song on the device when a performance is selected (assuming it sends out MIDI messages when this occurs).

Mike

[Ben]

Yes, you can restore a backup and it will contain all the MIDI commands you set up on your Windows device. You just need to go to Settings->MIDI Settings->Configure MIDI Connections on the tablet and phone to establish the connection to the Kemper. You can have bidirectional communication and either load a performance on the Kemper or have the Kemper load a song on the device when a performance is selected (assuming it sends out MIDI messages when this occurs).

Mike

Thank you Mike.
"You just need to go to Settings->MIDI Settings->Configure MIDI Connections on the tablet and phone to establish the connection to the Kemper."
Would this have to be done each time the Windows-produced backup is restored on the tablet/phone?

[Zubersoft]

Yes if you check the option to restore settings, no if you uncheck that option.

Mike

[Ben]

Yes if you check the option to restore settings, no if you uncheck that option.

Mike

Thanks for the super fast reply. Yes, that's my default setting, "Include MS Settings" and "Restore Settings", both checked.
Looking forward controlling the "stomp box" from Mobilesheets!

[Zubersoft]

You would want the "Restore Settings" unchecked if you don't want to have to reconnect the MIDI device each time.

Mike

[Ben]

You would want the "Restore Settings" unchecked if you don't want to have to reconnect the MIDI device each time.

Mike

Thanks, all clear now!
I'll try to define a Midi connection in the MS settings for the Windows tablet to the Kemper, let's see what happens with those Settings on the tablet & phone.
Probably won't work, thus will do as you suggest.

[Ben]

Just some feedback:

Mobilesheets Android is now, upon song load, "patch selecting" the corresponding preset/slot in the Kemper Profiler (Stage).
This is particularly helpful when you're not working your way through a fixed sequence of Kemper performances.
I now can fully cope with my band's spontaneity, no more hectic "sound searching"!

First impression: this Bluetooth solution (Widi Master dongle, 54€ at Thomann Germany) appears to be reliable/stable and fit for the purpose.
As connection App for Bluetooth Midi I'm using "Midi-BTLE" from the Play Store.
The trick is to deduct, on the Mobilesheets song settings Midi tab, patch select, "1" from the Bank and Program Change numbers shown on the Kemper Display for each slot.
LSB and Value have to be checked, this doesn't seem to matter with MSB.

I will restore the Windows MS library on the Android tablet with "restore settings" unchecked. Ideally, for my kind of workflow, both environments (plus IOS actually) should have identical settings.
Wonder what'll happen if the Android MS library (with its Midi settings, both general and song specific) is restored on the Windows laptop (where currently no Midi is defined), with "restore settings" checked (?)

Caveat: changing the order of "connected" performances or slots in the Kemper will invariably lead to an undesired patch selection when the song is loaded in Mobilesheets.
The song's Mobilesheets Song Midi Settings stay the same obviously but the command now finds a different sound in the original Bank/Program Change.

Thanks again for your help, Mike!

[Zubersoft]

Nothing bad will happen if you restore the Android settings on Windows as they use completely different implementations and store their MIDI port/device information in different ways. However, checking the option to restore settings replaces the settings files (clearing out any previous Windows settings). So it's not harmful to restore settings on the initial restore, but if you do it for future ones, that's when you would need to reselect your MIDI devices.

Mike

[Swiss1000]

Parameters should be divided in "User" - "Machien" separatly...

Restoring "include parameters" is a non sens.

[Zubersoft]

I disagree with your statement. Most users wouldn't want that at all if going from Android to Windows, as then they'd need to reconfigure the entire application. I may isolate some of the platform-specific settings into different files at some point, but this causes other potential headaches, as then I have to manage a significantly larger list of settings files with platform-specific code to handle them all.

Mike

[Ben]

Nothing bad will happen if you restore the Android settings on Windows as they use completely different implementations and store their MIDI port/device information in different ways. However, checking the option to restore settings replaces the settings files (clearing out any previous Windows settings). So it's not harmful to restore settings on the initial restore, but if you do it for future ones, that's when you would need to reselect your MIDI devices.

Mike

Thank you Mike,

I will try the Android ==> Windows restore backup soon. 
Another reason why I was playing with that thought: it seems that MP3s are kept in the MobileSheets folder structure even if they're no longer attached to a song.
E.g. when you want to add a new MP3 with the same file name, MS offers the 3 options (replace, rename, use existing file), even if the old MP3 isn't shown in the Audio tab anymore.
Choosing "replace" led to the unexpected result that the initial file was still picked.

Any library restore gets rid of these no-longer-used-files I take it.

[Zubersoft]

It actually doesn't - there is a problem right now that if you remove a file in the song editor, that it can be effectively orphaned, as there isn't an option to delete the file if it appears to be unused. It was designed this way to prevent issues where files could be deleted if they were just temporarily being removed. So I have some work to do there to help prevent orphaned files, but also to provide a new utility to clean up unused files.

Mike

[Zubersoft]

If you want to clean up everything, you'd want to uninstall, reinstall and then restore the backup file. If you make sure to uncheck the option to keep the application data when uninstalling, that would give you a truly clean slate.

Mike