[kimbered]

Hi,

I'm a newbie and have been slowly, but successfully, importing pdf music books with bookmarks for each of the books songs.

I know how to use the library to select a collection, then swipe through it it in alphabetical order.

My question, is there a way to open the digital book (that the collection was created from) and swipe through the book in actual physical page order (which isn't necesarily bookmark/alphabetical order).  But, also maintain the ability to swipe via bookmark order.  I would like the flexibility to switch between the two.
 
Thanks.

Kim

[itsme]

https://www.zubersoft.com/mobilesheets/f...13326.html

[kimbered]

https://www.zubersoft.com/mobilesheets/f...13326.html

If I'm reading it correctly, the answer is no without a lot of csv work.  Thanks!

[Lawrie]

Hi,

I'm a newbie and have been slowly, but successfully, importing pdf music books with bookmarks for each of the books songs.

I know how to use the library to select a collection, then swipe through it it in alphabetical order.

My question, is there a way to open the digital book (that the collection was created from) and swipe through the book in actual physical page order (which isn't necesarily bookmark/alphabetical order).  But, also maintain the ability to swipe via bookmark order.  I would like the flexibility to switch between the two.
 
Thanks.

Kim

You can import the PDF as a single file/song.

[kimbered]

Hi,

I'm a newbie and have been slowly, but successfully, importing pdf music books with bookmarks for each of the books songs.

I know how to use the library to select a collection, then swipe through it it in alphabetical order.

My question, is there a way to open the digital book (that the collection was created from) and swipe through the book in actual physical page order (which isn't necesarily bookmark/alphabetical order).  But, also maintain the ability to swipe via bookmark order.  I would like the flexibility to switch between the two.
 
Thanks.

Kim

You can import the PDF as a single file/song.

I was wondering about that.  Thanks

[BRX]

Mike, I just had this idea (maybe someone had it before me).

Is it difficult to have a function for snippets (or rather songs which come from a PDF collection and are only shown with their single pages) to swap to a view of the complete source PDF (essentially temporarily use the complete page count 1-500 or whatever) so you can effecively browse forward and back like browsing through that complete PDF? (And the temporary complete page count is "deleted" again if you leave the song view)?

Surely not a use case for every day, but I indeed remember some cases where I could have used that and it would solve the request.

P.S. Just remembered the use case and I needed it much more often than I initially thought.

For my bigband I use the complete PDF with parts and score and recduce it with the "pages function" just to my piano part. But I also often want to look up a part of another instrument or the score. (For these cases I have saved the full PDF and made a smart button on the piano part to display that). With the suggested feature one/I wouldn't need another instance of the PDF/smart button (or even the upcoming versioning) to do that.

[kimbered]

Hi,

I'm a newbie and have been slowly, but successfully, importing pdf music books with bookmarks for each of the books songs.

I know how to use the library to select a collection, then swipe through it it in alphabetical order.

My question, is there a way to open the digital book (that the collection was created from) and swipe through the book in actual physical page order (which isn't necesarily bookmark/alphabetical order).  But, also maintain the ability to swipe via bookmark order.  I would like the flexibility to switch between the two.
 
Thanks.

Kim

You can import the PDF as a single file/song.

I was wondering about that.  Thanks

After thinking about this option I realized one drawback.  If I make a note on a page (most likely a fret stamp) it will not show up on the other version of the page.  Being able to use one source of the page would be much better.

[Zubersoft]

Short answer - yes, it would be difficult due to how things are architected. You could just modify the page order to use all of the pages of the files, and then change it back to what it was after. Or you could create a copy of the song where you do that and then delete the extra song after. If I tried to support this in MobileSheets, I would effectively be doing the same thing - just resetting the page order. Doing that in a way where the original day is unaffected is challenging though. I would probably just create an internal copy of the song with its original state, modify the page order to use all pages (which will require modifying the database to ensure nothing gets broken with other features), allow the song to be viewed, and then have a way to reset it back to the saved state after. There are many issues with this approach though:

1) What happens if the app was closed without that saved instance being restored? If I have to persist the saved copy somewhere else in the database to prevent this data loss, things start getting a bit messy, as that would require data across many database tables.
2) What happens if the user modifies the song while viewing it in the temporary state that uses all pages? For example, if they start annotating those pages. Does that all then get deleted when it reverts? Is this what the user would expect?

Making it read-only in that state would require huge changes. Disabling features while its in that state would also require a huge number of changes. So no matter what, this would wind up being difficult and time-consuming to implement.

kimbered - embed the annotations in the annotations editor (tap the three dots at the top right corner and select "Embed annotations"). This will write the annotations into the PDF itself, and then any song using the PDF will show those annotations. The annotations won't be editable unless you also enable "Allow editing of embedded PDF annotations", but I wouldn't recommend leaving that setting on all the time as it breaks the seamless transition between viewing and annotating because the PDF has to be reloaded in an editable state (do to quirks with the PDF library I use).

Mike

[kimbered]

Short answer - yes, it would be difficult due to how things are architected. You could just modify the page order to use all of the pages of the files, and then change it back to what it was after. Or you could create a copy of the song where you do that and then delete the extra song after. If I tried to support this in MobileSheets, I would effectively be doing the same thing - just resetting the page order. Doing that in a way where the original day is unaffected is challenging though. I would probably just create an internal copy of the song with its original state, modify the page order to use all pages (which will require modifying the database to ensure nothing gets broken with other features), allow the song to be viewed, and then have a way to reset it back to the saved state after. There are many issues with this approach though:

1) What happens if the app was closed without that saved instance being restored? If I have to persist the saved copy somewhere else in the database to prevent this data loss, things start getting a bit messy, as that would require data across many database tables.
2) What happens if the user modifies the song while viewing it in the temporary state that uses all pages? For example, if they start annotating those pages. Does that all then get deleted when it reverts? Is this what the user would expect?

Making it read-only in that state would require huge changes. Disabling features while its in that state would also require a huge number of changes. So no matter what, this would wind up being difficult and time-consuming to implement.

kimbered - embed the annotations in the annotations editor (tap the three dots at the top right corner and select "Embed annotations"). This will write the annotations into the PDF itself, and then any song using the PDF will show those annotations. The annotations won't be editable unless you also enable "Allow editing of embedded PDF annotations", but I wouldn't recommend leaving that setting on all the time as it breaks the seamless transition between viewing and annotating because the PDF has to be reloaded in an editable state (do to quirks with the PDF library I use).

Mike

Thank you!